Showing posts with label Iraq. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Iraq. Show all posts

Monday, 5 January 2009

Torture bad, counterproductive, recruits terrorists

Bruce Schneier's blog has a couple of nice quotes from Matthew Alexander, a former interrogator with the US in Iraq.

Interestingly, it seems to echo what some others with experience of interrogation say.  David Cornwell, the author who writes as John Le Carre worked for British Military Intelligence way back and says much the same in this interview.

No surprises.  Do bad things and right thinking people will get upset and decide you are worth fighting.  That's why it's so sad that we've allowed ourselves to be associated with despicable behaviour in Iraq and elsewhere.  


Sunday, 4 January 2009

Gaza and Israel

Israel's invasion of Gaza is the front page news in today's serious British newspapers (the ones that aren't more concerned with the cosmetic surgery of pointless celebrities).

Clearly Israel has to do something about the hundreds of rockets that have been fired into its territory.  I have much more sympathy with Israel's retaliation than with our own (British) involvement in the second Iraq war.  How many Iraqi missiles had been fired at Britain or Britain's allies before our government felt justified in invading Iraq?  None.  The invasion led, directly and indirectly, to the deaths of many tens of thousands of Iraqis.  By that standard, what is happening now in Gaza seems like a minor incident.

It is not a minor incident, of course.  And the deaths of hundreds of Palestinians is unacceptable, as is the completely indiscriminate firing of missiles into Israel by Hamas.

In the lunchtime news ("The World this Weekend") on Radio 4, a Hamas member of parliament was asked why his organisation continued to fire missiles into Israel.

"Because we want peace" was his response.  (I believe those are the words he used - if I have them slightly wrong, I apologise).

Clearly the Hamas policy of firing missiles has failed to bring about the desired end, at least in the short term.

I suspect that Israel's approach may be just as futile in the longer term.  

With a huge effort and significant loss of life (mainly Palestinian lives) Israel may bring about some kind of halt to the firing of missiles in the  short term, but it is hard to see this as anything other than temporary until both sides acknowledge that long term peace will not be realised through force.